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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:28 am 
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In all honesty the bottles seem to be coming from middle section of block 11, thats what I thought..nowhere near the back row of 11 or Jez's family.. If it were, then they have one mighty strenght to get it all the way onto the ice... Can I also thank D block Drummers and co on here for doing a fantastic job of chanting and getting the crowd going. You guys as always have created a great ambience in this years finals:) :guitar:

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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:37 am 
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Sat in middle of Block 11 near Jez's family and the Drummers and nothing came over the top of us.
Well done D Block for all the noise for every game


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:38 am 
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i was sitting nxt to jez lundins mum in block 11 and saw nothing thrown


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:00 pm 
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Moley wrote:
number 35 wrote:
rule is anyone on the ice at time of call can be nominated for the pen shot,


Right. So why was Emersic taking it?



From the LATEST IIHF rule book:-

509 - Penalty Shot Procedure
commentary

The Coach or the Captain of the non-offending team selects and reports to the Referee the number of any non-penalized player who shall take the shot. [NEW]
The Referee shall cause to be announced the name and number of the player taking the Penalty Shot, who cannot be a player serving a penalty or has been assessed a delayed penalty.
The players of both teams shall withdraw to the sides of the rink and behind the red line.
The Referee shall place the puck on the center spot.Only a goalkeeper shall defend against the Penalty Shot.
The goalkeeper shall stay in his crease until the player has touched the puck.
The player shall, on instruction of the Referee, play the puck and proceed towards his opponent’s goal line and attempt to score on the goalkeeper.
Once the puck is shot the play shall be considered complete, and no goal can be scored by a second shot of any kind.
If a goal is scored, the face-off shall take place at center ice.
If no goal is scored, the face-off shall take place at either of the end zone face-off spots in which the Penalty Shot has been attempted.
The time required for taking a Penalty Shot shall not be recorded in the actual playing time in any period.

Thus it doesn't have to be the player fouled who takes it.

Also it appears that a player can come off the bench to take it

Just as a point of fact, some posters on THF say Emersic WAS on the ice at the time of the foul


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:00 pm 
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Firstly - The Result:

It was a close game as all can see, it was a great contest that went down to almost the very last. One you could say that neither team deserved to lose but, Hockey is hockey, and someone has miss out. I agree, it wasn't a classic, in most parts it was scrappy with missed opportunities a multitude of mistakes and errors from both teams.

Secondly - P-Shot

I was sat towards the back at the Rockman end (Farthest seats in the Guildford block). From my view of the incident, it was a without a doubt the correct call from Thompson. As soon as the arm went up. I called it the same. Thompson, was also impeccable in his position on the ice, keeping up with the play to have a good view of it and make the decision.

Greener was clear through, the Flames Players converged on him, but again he was clearly infront of them at which point he was impeded, by the stick of a play from behind to an extent that he was denied a clear goal scoring opportunity on a break away. It was IMO a carbon copy of a call at the Spectrum earlier in the season with Tom Duggan.

Thirdly - Fans Reaction

In the heat of the moment things are said, words are shouted. We all get upset to come so close but then miss-out. But you have to draw a line somewhere. The bottom line of the matter is, Slough deserved to win and being a Flames fan or not, IMO it would have been nice to see a few more people stay while they lifted the trophy at the very least. Ever if it was just to acknowledge the efforts from them.

Bottles thrown/Abusive Behavior - Major Downside

Surely this goes without saying, it's for me a massive down side to the weekend. It's dangerous, disrespectful and out-right thuggish. Is it to be that ice hockey supporters are to be treated like school children in future and like football supporters have to have their drinks served in plastic cups. I really hope it's not going to resort to this because of a minority.

Biggest Positive - (ironically, those who left the Arena without staying to see Slough lift the cup will have missed this)

For me, this was the high-light of the entire weekend and If I was the editor of PowerPlay this would be my cover photo was when Ryan Watt included a young Slough supporter in a wheelchair into the teams celebrations. Not only did go looking for her and bring her onto the ice but he stayed with her making sure she was safe from any further missiles from the crowd and took her round on the Jet lap of honer with him.

For a Player that has had his fair share of judicious press this year (and someone I'd not really consider at times a great role model to the sport on occasions) I feel this was an act of true warmth. For me, at a time where even as high-up as the NHL the words 'Hockey is for Everyone' are being encouraged this will be my Golden memory of the weekend and the one that will always make me smile.


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:15 pm 
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Bossman wrote:
some fans i fear are using this as an excuse to try bring d block dummers down


I haven't seen anything at all like that on here.
Are people slagging off the D block drummers on another forum?

I think the drummers were brilliant all weekend. And so did everyone I sat with. Well done to them :clap:

I saw a least 4 or 5 missiles flying through the air and I KNOW for sure they came from quite far back and from either Block 10 or 11. But I don't for one second think it was the drummers!!

Anyway, we don't need to know who did it and no-one should use this as an excuse to persecute anyone or bring anyone down.


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:22 pm 
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Albus wrote:
Bossman wrote:
some fans i fear are using this as an excuse to try bring d block dummers down


I haven't seen anything at all like that on here.
Are people slagging off the D block drummers on another forum?

I think the drummers were brilliant all weekend. And so did everyone I sat with. Well done to them :clap:

I saw a least 4 or 5 missiles flying through the air and I KNOW for sure they came from quite far back and from either Block 10 or 11. But I don't for one second think it was the drummers!!

Anyway, we don't need to know who did it and no-one should use this as an excuse to persecute anyone or bring anyone down.


You could read it as that and i know speaking to them they feel like that is the case and i know some sections of the fanbase simply do not like them!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:44 pm 
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I'm going to hold my hands up I left the minute the penalty shot went in! I'm a terrible loser and couldn't bear to watch Slough lift the cup, I know I should be ashamed but I doubt a single Slough player or fan gave a damm :oops:
Ive had a tongue in cheek pop at the drummers in the past and Ive never liked or seen the point in goading opposition players or fans, but I admit I'll have a go at the ref they just deserve it at times :)


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:03 pm 
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I think on behalf of myself and the other drummers, thanks for the support - it is much appreciated and I think it's great that other fans are feeling comfortable to join in. We have the fanbase to make a lot of noise so lets use our large away followings to make a lot of noise - the players certainly appreciate it. :)

Albus, I think what Bossman is getting at that this could turn into another 'who beat up Roman Szucs' episode where I and other drummers were accused of this (by fellow Guildford fans even).

gfreemantle, I completely agree with your sentiments regarding Watt after the game - to say it was very thoughtful of him is a massive understatement (reminded me of what they do at the Bison sometimes by opening up the gates near the cafe). However, you've slightly dramaticised the bottle throwing! From the back of block 11 I didn't see 1 bottle being thrown and there was no need for him to keep her from the missiles because by that point there was hardly anyone left in the Guildford end.

If we want to sling mud about then why not mention that muppet Bison fan who delibrately tried to incite us with his 'puck off' sign! :evil: Or the drunk showing us his arse half the Swindon game.

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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:47 pm 
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Not defending anyone or anything or agree with that sign, I must admit the sign did get to me, but one of the Flames fans sat close to me is actually friends with that guy, and was told that it was done in a jokey way, and not in a way to cause offense, so I learned to laugh at it. I even blew the poor chap a kiss when we scored a goal:). He is probably still traumatized.. Good thing I missed on the Swindon fan.... Again well done Slough, and hoping that we all recover from this weekend of traumas and tantrums, and come back next season with a vengeance, and be the team to be feared again...On a different note, loved how most fans brought their sunglasses, (ok the good weather helped) and really loved the Money bags theme, and the Monopoly money. I think year on year, we are learning to have more fun at Coventry, and take the mickey out of each other as Flames fans...:). I have also learned again, that no matter how much you smile and be friendly to some minority of Flames fans, you just cannot get a smile out of them. Thats ok, I will just smile and be cheery on behalf of you lot;)

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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:48 pm 
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Can I just clarify something I was not infering that D block drummers were the instigators of the insults or jestures at the end, try not to assume what others are talking about. In my opinion the swearing and jestures should not happen, we were all upset but as adults can contain this as there were some very young children in the crowd. I was one of the fans that went to the glass when this started as I did not want to be around that kind of thing and said the same to friends of mine who joined in. Maybe some fans need to remember the hockey saying "what happens on the ice stays on the ice" next time the final whistle blows.


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:38 pm 
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Kafty wrote:
I was 3rd row block 12



I was sat a few seats along from you and the cheering in the U18's game was superb. Jake is actually a little Legend.


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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:57 pm 
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over the weekend the let down was the flames just create the right chances at the right time,though that said i did not feel we played badly either game and apart from the end product in front of the goal everyone was up for it and there is not 1 player i would thought.The Swindon game should had been put to bed long before they scored their 2 goals and i feel Swindon will feel flattered that they got away with a 3 goal beating.As for the final,the controversy was and is always going to the game winning penalty shot for the jets,which i thought at very least was debatable,i did'nt feel it was 1,though we would have had a penalty called against us,but i feel this will be debated for years as well as Thompson's very inept performance,why on earth he got the nod over Cloutman was to me a joke,and there is a lot of dismay amongst a few epl officals that he was given the game given that although he has done a few flames games,he is an elite league offical and for whatever we think of the refs in this league,it should had been an epl offical taking charge and not an elite offical who only does epl when there's no elte game to do,i hope for 1 he's never seen at the speccy again.Back to the game and to be fair Slough deserve credit for the way they soaked up the pressure and Greg Rockman was superb in nets.oh well try again next year!

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 Post subject: Re: Playoffs!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:17 pm 
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I was also one of the supporters who left as the presentation was being made but before everyone shouts me down. I made my way over to the Slough fans to congratulate them on their win and to say how pleased I was that the youngster in the wheelchair was pushed around the ice and presented with the cup. I think this was an incrediable thing that the team did. I am sure it made the youngsters night. Did you see her face ???????

I am afraid to say that this is in contrast to the way I have seen spectrum staff treat some of the 'special' people who attend our home matches.


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